
BillyShears
Oct 12, 11:24 PM
If there are "top secret" features, I would guess they would have to be apps if it's going to be released at MWSF? There couldn't be significant changes to the operating system without developer testing before then. Unless they are going to introduce the "top secret" features after Vista has shipped (someone was saying that's next month?) But even that seems like a really quick testing phase for developers.

TangoCharlie
Jul 13, 02:38 AM
You can't drop the price and maintain the quality, champ...
...unless you can turn over a much higher volume. It's unlikely that Apple is in a position to do that at the moment. :(
...unless you can turn over a much higher volume. It's unlikely that Apple is in a position to do that at the moment. :(

SeattleMoose
Apr 17, 11:04 AM
How long can you promise a product and string people along before something happens (loss of interest, peasants storm Cupertino castle demanding it, competitor tries to fill gap, etc.).
What a joke this whole "white" piece of plastic is...
What a joke this whole "white" piece of plastic is...

Multimedia
Sep 12, 11:19 AM
It all over CNBC at this point too.What's all over CNBC? Details please. This appears to me as if it will be a live stream. My player reads "Live Broadcast - Paused" :)
I wonder what Mac that is behind Phil? Looks like it could be the new Conroe Mac.
I wonder what Mac that is behind Phil? Looks like it could be the new Conroe Mac.

CrUmp
Apr 28, 10:18 PM
Don't tell me where to put my western values. It is not government's job to uphold the corporatocracy by putting employees in jail whenever their employer doesn't like what they did. Even worse in a communist country where the "employer" and the government might be one and the same. I have every right to know how governments treat their citizens if I might be buying their products.
In general, trade secrets are a civil matter in the US, not a criminal matter - there is no arrest, there is no go to jail, it is a financial matter.
If this article is wrong and these people were not "arrested" as the article says, then the article absolutely needs to be corrected.
I would've agreed with you if everything you said are ture, however, even in the Us where the law is so perfect, theft of trade secert is still a feredal crime.
Anyways, dispite the fact they did commit the crime, you can't assume everything has everything to do with the government. Saying a Taiwanese owned company, foxconn, might be the same as Chinese government is simply false. And what make you so sure about the arrest did happened? Because you think this is how things are in china? Lol
I know what your point is, but you just like so many chinese people, blame their very own failur on the goverment. Yea those manufactur workers should have more pay, better benefits and better life, if you can tell apple and many western international corperations pay the poor chinese people more, than again, you might not afford your iphone ipad and your computers, and cars and many many other things.
I might be wrong about this, but you sure you dont have anything made in a country where worker paid 0.20 per day?
But no one in china only earn only 0.20/day, so this is also not true....I dont know how you guys came up with this.....
In general, trade secrets are a civil matter in the US, not a criminal matter - there is no arrest, there is no go to jail, it is a financial matter.
If this article is wrong and these people were not "arrested" as the article says, then the article absolutely needs to be corrected.
I would've agreed with you if everything you said are ture, however, even in the Us where the law is so perfect, theft of trade secert is still a feredal crime.
Anyways, dispite the fact they did commit the crime, you can't assume everything has everything to do with the government. Saying a Taiwanese owned company, foxconn, might be the same as Chinese government is simply false. And what make you so sure about the arrest did happened? Because you think this is how things are in china? Lol
I know what your point is, but you just like so many chinese people, blame their very own failur on the goverment. Yea those manufactur workers should have more pay, better benefits and better life, if you can tell apple and many western international corperations pay the poor chinese people more, than again, you might not afford your iphone ipad and your computers, and cars and many many other things.
I might be wrong about this, but you sure you dont have anything made in a country where worker paid 0.20 per day?
But no one in china only earn only 0.20/day, so this is also not true....I dont know how you guys came up with this.....

JRM PowerPod
Aug 2, 09:15 PM
i want to see a CD version of leopard!! lol :p :D
is that so much to ask??
ACTUALLY, i've heard that it willl be blu-ray only
is that so much to ask??
ACTUALLY, i've heard that it willl be blu-ray only

v66jack
Apr 5, 05:27 AM
I think some people are forgetting other elements are involved with the creation of a phone model. Sure, Design has a lot to do with it, as does the supply of parts.
But Apple isn't just some backstreet hack knocking up burgers, reliant on the supply of produce that will match their recipe.
The product releases are scheduled. In the consumer electronics business, the technology needs to progress rapidly, rolling old products into obsoleteness.
Deals related to parts would be in place more than months ahead. Chances are, the iPhone 5 was already beginning testing before the iPhone 4 was released.
Which means, even at prototype level or pre-production sample, the components would have been available long beforehand. You think they knock off 5 million iPhones between announcement date, and release date with complete faith in shipping schedules?
Deals relating to the supply of these parts are made long in advance. Manufacture for the iPhone 5 would have already been getting ramped up, and the need to have the new product available at, or around the existing schedule would be vital. And they wouldn't be taking chances. It's crucial in the IT industry.
+1. I can't watch one of Apples keynotes without thinking how hard it must be to get so excited and passionate about a product which has more than likely been kicking around the office for a couple of years.
The ability Steve has to be so convincingly in telling us that this product is magical and revolutionary when he knows exactly what's coming up in the next couple of years, and how bad this device is in comparison. I find it very immpessive.
But Apple isn't just some backstreet hack knocking up burgers, reliant on the supply of produce that will match their recipe.
The product releases are scheduled. In the consumer electronics business, the technology needs to progress rapidly, rolling old products into obsoleteness.
Deals related to parts would be in place more than months ahead. Chances are, the iPhone 5 was already beginning testing before the iPhone 4 was released.
Which means, even at prototype level or pre-production sample, the components would have been available long beforehand. You think they knock off 5 million iPhones between announcement date, and release date with complete faith in shipping schedules?
Deals relating to the supply of these parts are made long in advance. Manufacture for the iPhone 5 would have already been getting ramped up, and the need to have the new product available at, or around the existing schedule would be vital. And they wouldn't be taking chances. It's crucial in the IT industry.
+1. I can't watch one of Apples keynotes without thinking how hard it must be to get so excited and passionate about a product which has more than likely been kicking around the office for a couple of years.
The ability Steve has to be so convincingly in telling us that this product is magical and revolutionary when he knows exactly what's coming up in the next couple of years, and how bad this device is in comparison. I find it very immpessive.

EricNau
Mar 7, 12:46 AM
Not any more than I can hold that her own stupidity led to this as well.
Like I said previously, putting yourself in harm's way should not in any way absolve you from blame for what happens. When you use yourself as a human shield, you're going to get hurt - why should it be the other guy's fault?
I have to disagree. I doubt she was knowingly placing herself in harm's way. Jumping on the hood of a vehicle is dramatic, but I doubt she expected her husband to start driving, much less at speeds of 100 mph. As he started moving, she probably expected him to stop briefly to let her off; instead he just kept driving faster and faster.
Unless she could reasonably foresee her husband driving on the freeway at 100 mph with her still on the hood, then she did not "knowingly place herself in harm's way." And I don't think his actions were reasonably foreseeable by any means.
Besides, let's say for example that Spouse A is holding a gun, and Spouse B jumps in front of the gun to prevent "A" from shooting his/her favorite Ming Dynasty Vase (it's a priceless original, after all). Spouse A shoots anyway, killing Spouse B. ...Who's to blame? Spouse A for pulling the trigger, or Spouse B for protecting their vase? Even if standing in front of a gun is "stupid," I think it hardly fair to hold Spouse B accountable for Spouse A's actions of pulling the trigger.
It simply isn't acceptable to try to kill your wife, and that's exactly what this man did.
If a husband wanted to leave and his wife blocked the car, then you walk. You call a cab, take a bus, call a friend. You don't drive at speeds of 100 mph with her on the hood, unless stopping endangers your life as well (but nothing in the story indicates this to be the case). It's an inexcusable action, regardless of the circumstances.
Like I said previously, putting yourself in harm's way should not in any way absolve you from blame for what happens. When you use yourself as a human shield, you're going to get hurt - why should it be the other guy's fault?
I have to disagree. I doubt she was knowingly placing herself in harm's way. Jumping on the hood of a vehicle is dramatic, but I doubt she expected her husband to start driving, much less at speeds of 100 mph. As he started moving, she probably expected him to stop briefly to let her off; instead he just kept driving faster and faster.
Unless she could reasonably foresee her husband driving on the freeway at 100 mph with her still on the hood, then she did not "knowingly place herself in harm's way." And I don't think his actions were reasonably foreseeable by any means.
Besides, let's say for example that Spouse A is holding a gun, and Spouse B jumps in front of the gun to prevent "A" from shooting his/her favorite Ming Dynasty Vase (it's a priceless original, after all). Spouse A shoots anyway, killing Spouse B. ...Who's to blame? Spouse A for pulling the trigger, or Spouse B for protecting their vase? Even if standing in front of a gun is "stupid," I think it hardly fair to hold Spouse B accountable for Spouse A's actions of pulling the trigger.
It simply isn't acceptable to try to kill your wife, and that's exactly what this man did.
If a husband wanted to leave and his wife blocked the car, then you walk. You call a cab, take a bus, call a friend. You don't drive at speeds of 100 mph with her on the hood, unless stopping endangers your life as well (but nothing in the story indicates this to be the case). It's an inexcusable action, regardless of the circumstances.

Daveoc64
May 5, 01:30 PM
I wonder if an iTunes update could help things by:
a) Not backing up the location data
b) Clearing the cache when an iOS device is synced
This could be applied to all iOS devices, including the discontinued iPhone and iPhone 3G without them needing a software update.
a) Not backing up the location data
b) Clearing the cache when an iOS device is synced
This could be applied to all iOS devices, including the discontinued iPhone and iPhone 3G without them needing a software update.

Lara F
Apr 4, 07:26 PM
IMO Apple's biggest mistake (as far as stopping Android) was coming to Verizon one year too late.
The sad thing is this:
Apple had a HUGE tech advantage with their touch-screen iOS software. They were light-years ahead of the competition when the original iPhone debuted. They could've licensed the software with some decently strict quality controls (screens must be X size, processor must be X fast, etc.) and stomped the market while Android was still an idea in some moron's head at Google.
They could've been Microsoft for the new-era: iOS on every Phone, iOS on every tablet, etc.
And they made the same, stupid mistake as they did in the 80s: they picked device profitability over software profitability. They've locked themselves into a cycle where they need to constantly hit their hardware revisions out of the ballpark, both in specs and aesthetics, to keep pace.
The sad thing is this:
Apple had a HUGE tech advantage with their touch-screen iOS software. They were light-years ahead of the competition when the original iPhone debuted. They could've licensed the software with some decently strict quality controls (screens must be X size, processor must be X fast, etc.) and stomped the market while Android was still an idea in some moron's head at Google.
They could've been Microsoft for the new-era: iOS on every Phone, iOS on every tablet, etc.
And they made the same, stupid mistake as they did in the 80s: they picked device profitability over software profitability. They've locked themselves into a cycle where they need to constantly hit their hardware revisions out of the ballpark, both in specs and aesthetics, to keep pace.

TripHop
Mar 24, 03:16 PM
I placed my order @ 5pm ET when they started taking orders and their first batch of this model arrived Tuesday and to me today. So 13 days from launch. Not bad and I saved $87 sales tax including the digital AV HDMI adapter which they expect to get some of tomorrow. :)

Amanda84
Jun 11, 11:08 PM
I work for BestBuy/GeekSquad, so let me confirm that that yes, we'll be selling iPhones at launch, and there will indeed be an employee purchase hold to allow clients to purchase the entire stock for a certain period of time.
You will be able to use rewardzone certificates, store credit, gift cards, anything that would normally apply to other in-store categories.
Also the warranty that BBY mobile sells on the iPhone is pretty decent, it includes ADH (accidental damage from handling) so if you drop the phone, spill water on it or get it wet, crack the screen, all that stuff is covered under warranty.
** How much is that warranty?
You will be able to use rewardzone certificates, store credit, gift cards, anything that would normally apply to other in-store categories.
Also the warranty that BBY mobile sells on the iPhone is pretty decent, it includes ADH (accidental damage from handling) so if you drop the phone, spill water on it or get it wet, crack the screen, all that stuff is covered under warranty.
** How much is that warranty?

Number 41
Apr 4, 10:54 AM
Glad to see some robust competition...will only keep Apple honest and innovative.
This entire scenario is playing out like Windows / MacOS part 2 -- the vertically integrated MacOS (hardware + OS coming from same source) is beaten into obscurity by the OS that is available on a multitude of devices from many different manufacturers.
Every percentage point that Android ticks higher -- every million more Android customers that sign on due to BOGOs and heavily subsidized phones -- makes their customer base the more enticing one to develop for.
This type of competition won't keep Apple "honest and innovative" -- it'll just lead to what we saw before in the 80s and 90s: top software going to the competing platform with Apple grabbing at scraps.
This entire scenario is playing out like Windows / MacOS part 2 -- the vertically integrated MacOS (hardware + OS coming from same source) is beaten into obscurity by the OS that is available on a multitude of devices from many different manufacturers.
Every percentage point that Android ticks higher -- every million more Android customers that sign on due to BOGOs and heavily subsidized phones -- makes their customer base the more enticing one to develop for.
This type of competition won't keep Apple "honest and innovative" -- it'll just lead to what we saw before in the 80s and 90s: top software going to the competing platform with Apple grabbing at scraps.

likemyorbs
Apr 7, 06:43 PM
Agreed.
You would.
You would.

thebill79
Apr 19, 10:00 AM
so if you computer crashes you left with nothing.. again why they should discount this.
That's not how steam works. When you purchase something through steam, you can download and install it as many times as you want. If your computer crashes, all you have to do is reinstall steam log into your account and redownload it. This is one of the reasons why steam is so popular.
as far as the price. $50 for games is standard, especially for pc ( and I guess now mac ). It costs millions of dollars to make and promote a game. Most games for consoles are $60 and there PC counterpart are $50 because both microsoft and sony take $10 off each sale. If you are concerned with the length of the game, go read a few reviews and they will all tell you the game is much much longer then the original, plus it includes a co-op mode with different levels. $50 seems pretty good to me.
Also, it's supply/demand. Millions of people are going to go out and spend $50 on the game, so why not sell it at $50? The nice thing about steam is, if you can find it cheaper elsewhere, you can still install it on your PC/Mac and play it through steam. But a lot of people are willing to pay the $5 extra to get the convenience of not needing to ship or wait in a line to buy the game.
That's not how steam works. When you purchase something through steam, you can download and install it as many times as you want. If your computer crashes, all you have to do is reinstall steam log into your account and redownload it. This is one of the reasons why steam is so popular.
as far as the price. $50 for games is standard, especially for pc ( and I guess now mac ). It costs millions of dollars to make and promote a game. Most games for consoles are $60 and there PC counterpart are $50 because both microsoft and sony take $10 off each sale. If you are concerned with the length of the game, go read a few reviews and they will all tell you the game is much much longer then the original, plus it includes a co-op mode with different levels. $50 seems pretty good to me.
Also, it's supply/demand. Millions of people are going to go out and spend $50 on the game, so why not sell it at $50? The nice thing about steam is, if you can find it cheaper elsewhere, you can still install it on your PC/Mac and play it through steam. But a lot of people are willing to pay the $5 extra to get the convenience of not needing to ship or wait in a line to buy the game.

wmmk
Jul 12, 04:56 PM
Maybe the $899 iMac is a holdover for people who need to buy now. August 7 could have something that is much nicer than that...next gen eMac?:confused:
that'd be nice!
that'd be nice!

ss957916
Sep 29, 03:42 PM
Not working for me - I'm getting "Router incompatible" even though Elgato says the Apple Airport Express is fine.
"Ensure NAT-PMP and UPnP are activated." Didn't realise I'd need an IT degree...
"Ensure NAT-PMP and UPnP are activated." Didn't realise I'd need an IT degree...

jellomizer
Oct 17, 11:36 AM
I concurr. Almost every concert I go to now, I see a MacBook on stage. I see mac notebooks everywhere. One thing I hate is when i see people dissuading potential buyers away from macintoshes, simply because Windows is the more common operating system, when most of the time, these are new computer buyers and wouldn't be able to use Wwindows in the first place.
Well it is an issue of Risk Manangement. Whie true most people will be better off with a Mac. If they don't know anything better, the PC seems like the safest choice, Just because the numbers show more PC are out there and if you go to CompUSA you get 6-7 iles of Windows Programs and a little corner with Mac Products (often at a higher price too :mad: ). If they didn't like their Mac they are stuck with it. At least with the PC if it sucks you can use the programs you have on the Newer System (theroretically). It is hard to explain to them that OS X and iLife is equilvalnt to about $1000 of 3rd party software that you will need to get to match the quality, (not the crap that most PC come standard with) espectailly because all the feature seems to be there. iPhoto vs. Mr. Pic Foto softare, Mail vs. Outlook Express. But for someone new that is tough to explain. When they are computer savy enough they already have already invested into PC and PC Software so getting them to swich is hard too.
At least now with bootcamp you can go. Get a Mac if you really hate it after a few weeks we can put windows on it, and it will run that fine too.
Well it is an issue of Risk Manangement. Whie true most people will be better off with a Mac. If they don't know anything better, the PC seems like the safest choice, Just because the numbers show more PC are out there and if you go to CompUSA you get 6-7 iles of Windows Programs and a little corner with Mac Products (often at a higher price too :mad: ). If they didn't like their Mac they are stuck with it. At least with the PC if it sucks you can use the programs you have on the Newer System (theroretically). It is hard to explain to them that OS X and iLife is equilvalnt to about $1000 of 3rd party software that you will need to get to match the quality, (not the crap that most PC come standard with) espectailly because all the feature seems to be there. iPhoto vs. Mr. Pic Foto softare, Mail vs. Outlook Express. But for someone new that is tough to explain. When they are computer savy enough they already have already invested into PC and PC Software so getting them to swich is hard too.
At least now with bootcamp you can go. Get a Mac if you really hate it after a few weeks we can put windows on it, and it will run that fine too.

Taustin Powers
Jun 14, 02:17 AM
Congratulations, Microsoft! You replaced a horrible name with a...slightly less horrible name! ;)
This should be a fun week!
This should be a fun week!
WildCowboy
Dec 11, 02:33 PM
So now that we have a few people registered, anyone willing to volunteer to help organise a meetup of sorts? I'm certainly willing to (considering I live here) but I need to get a feel of how many people are actually interested,
Okay, I just signed up for the free Exhibit Hall pass. I'd also be willing to help coordinate a meet-up. I'm still not sure what my schedule will be like then and how much I'll be able to attend, but count me in!
Okay, I just signed up for the free Exhibit Hall pass. I'd also be willing to help coordinate a meet-up. I'm still not sure what my schedule will be like then and how much I'll be able to attend, but count me in!
Mac-key
Apr 19, 08:38 AM
I don't know what I'll do without my viewer! What about marking IN's and OUTs???
Oh well, time to adapt
Oh well, time to adapt
boston04and07
Sep 29, 04:52 PM
What's the program guide like? I've missed having a program guide on my iPhone since What's On changed their interface.
NT1440
Dec 1, 12:45 PM
This isn't really all that shocking to be honest. The costs of new tech are always higher at first, but when a big player finally pushes it, the prices drop dramatically.
vincenz
Apr 11, 10:20 PM
Well I guess it's official now right? Right?
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